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Jtopf

this tech quite her Davita job

typo: quite should be quit

Peter Laird, MD

Thank you Joel, skipping the spell check is hazardous to a blog.

Denise Eilers

NOOOOO !!! Physicians should only "write" the prescriptions. The "decision" to use a medication should be a shared one between the the physician and a fully informed patient.

Rich Berkowitz

The King of EPO has no Clothes is an appropriate title. Although I never dialyzed at a DaVita center, I have dialyzed with other LDO's and found the treatment lacking in many ways. I was personally offended when reading the Denser Post articles and also the DaVita 10K for the 2011 1st Quarter.

I could not believe the audacity displayed of saying it was the docs who over-prescribed Epo, and all of a sudden just before the implementation of Bundling they changed prescriptions seeminly overnight to reduce the dosage. We're talking thousands of patients. How convenient!

Hopefully, the government will investigate further and sting DaVita and recoup the millions of dollars DaVita took in quite fraudulently from Medicare. Of course, DaVita's plethora of attorneys will argue it wasn't fraud since it was the nephrologists that ordered the drug, but a look at how DaVita controls the docs is in order too.

Obviously, we want as much money to be in the system for dialysis as possible, but not to overuse the system to the point cuts are made for legitimate care.

roberta mikles

It is all very interesting. Giving large doses of Epogen prior to bundling, then cutting back. That, alone, says it all. I have to laugh when I see that Davita professes any type of transparency (or other companies, for that matter). They refuse to state the truth, admit errors when they occur, display their own surveys for patients and continue to deny when they are in the wrong. I also have to shake my head on another topic. Having worked with many patients who have experienced intimidation, retaliation, etc in Davita units, then mentioning such to a physician at the corporate level, then having this person just be totally shocked at what I stated, I have to wonder if those at the top truly understand what patients experience. Nothing will change in the units until there is a culture change. Patients need to be included in the team and fully educated as to what staff will be doing, including what the doctor orders, e.g. medications, staff need to be educated to respect patients.. there is a double standard, our organization believes, that follow the rule that if a patient does something that a staff does not like, they are labeled disruptive, etc and many times given warning that they will be discharged, regardless of regulations, however, if a staff intimidates a patient, it can go on forever.
Roberta Mikles
Advocates 4 Quality Safe Patient Care
www.qualitysafepatientcare.com

Suzette Fish

My husband will be starting Peritoneal Dialysis within the next 10 days. In reference to the training we will be getting we were told that I would be taught to give my husband his EPO shots once a week. My husband currently gets an EPO shot about once every 3-4 weeks when his Hg is about 10. How severe does ones anemia get on PD, are weekly EPO shots routinely ordered for all PD patients? In view of the FDA recent warning about the danger of EPO shots should one just refuse them if Hg is above a certain level?

Peter Laird, MD

Anemia management is dependent on many factors. Most PD patients have a fair amount of residual urinary function and are often switched to Hemodialysis when that function declines over time. PKD patients often have a high degree of residual EPO production and have less problems with anemia. Other factors to consider are history of cancers since they might recur or worsen in the face of EPO supplementation.

The precise recommendations for EPO are in many ways in a state of flux at present because of the recent studies showing adverse outcomes at higher dosages. For myself, I keep my iron levels above the minimum thresholds and I do not at present need any EPO to maintain my Hb over 11.0. In addition, I have needed only one iron infusion in the last 2.5 years as well. This may not be the case in the future, but if you can manage anemia without EPO at acceptable levels, who would argue with that outcome?

A remote article prior to EPO suggested exercise as one modality to modestly increase Hb levels. Recently, some studies have shown that Vit D3 supplementation will raise Hb levels by one point as well, but caution is needed to keep PO4 levels under control if you plan to take Vit D3.

These are issues you may wish to discuss with your medical team to see what may help in your own case. The bottom line in my opinion is that if you can avoid EPO, do avoid it. If you need to use it, keep it at the lowest possible dose. Once again, these are issues to discuss with you medical team to see what applies to your specific situation.

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